Synastry Without a Birth Time

Two dates are enough: see which aspects hold all day and which depend on the hour.

This page works without birth timesOnly the dates and places are used. The planets are placed at noon of the birth day, and the Ascendant, the Midheaven and the houses are left out. An aspect is marked “depends on the hour” when it would not hold at midnight, at noon and at the end of that day. The Moon moves about 13 degrees in a day, so its aspects change most.
APerson A

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Moscow, Russia. Time zone: Europe/Moscow.

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BPerson B

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Synastry resultSample couple

Person A Sep 29, 1990, time not knownPerson B Mar 14, 1988, time not known

Two invented people, not real ones. Enter your own birth details above and press the button to replace this result.

24 aspects between the two charts: 8 harmonious and 16 challenging.

8 of them depend on the hour, because a birth time is not known.

Good to know

  • Person A: no birth time. The planets are placed at noon of the birth day, and the Ascendant, the Midheaven and the houses are left out. Aspects marked “depends on the hour” may not hold at another time of the day.
  • Person B: no birth time. The planets are placed at noon of the birth day, and the Ascendant, the Midheaven and the houses are left out. Aspects marked “depends on the hour” may not hold at another time of the day.

The two charts as threads

Person A on the left, person B on the right. Each thread joins a point of A to a point of B. Tap a thread or a planet to read it.

  • Harmonious
  • Challenging
  • Thicker is tighter
  • Conjunction
  • Sextile
  • Square
  • Trine
  • Opposition

How to read it

  • Harmonious solid thread, round badge. The two planets ease each other.
  • Challenging dashed thread, diamond badge. Friction that asks for effort.
  • Thicker is tighter. The width of a thread shows how close the aspect is to exact.
  • Conjunction
  • Sextile
  • Square
  • Trine
  • Opposition

14 tightest of 24 links

Tap a thread or a planet

The tightest link is A’s Sun trine B’s Moon, orb 1°19′. Tap it, or any planet, to read what it means.

All aspects24 found

Every aspect found between the two charts, tightest first. Orb is the distance from the exact angle.

Aspects between the two charts, tightest first
No.Person AAspectPerson BOrbNature
1SunAHarmoniousdepends on the hourMoonB1°19′Harmoniousdepends on the hour
2VenusAChallengingSunB2°57′Challenging
3MarsAHarmoniousdepends on the hourMoonB4°14′Harmoniousdepends on the hour
4MoonAHarmoniousdepends on the hourMoonB6°09′Harmoniousdepends on the hour
5MoonAChallengingdepends on the hourJupiterB0°12′Challengingdepends on the hour
6JupiterAChallengingdepends on the hourMoonB0°47′Challengingdepends on the hour
7JupiterAChallengingVenusB1°09′Challenging
8MercuryAChallengingSunB4°49′Challenging
9North NodeAHarmoniousdepends on the hourMoonB1°46′Harmoniousdepends on the hour
10MercuryAHarmoniousdepends on the hourMarsB5°10′Harmoniousdepends on the hour
11SunAChallengingSaturnB3°59′Challenging
12North NodeAChallengingVenusB3°42′Challenging
13VenusAChallengingNorth NodeB4°16′Challenging
14SaturnAChallengingMarsB4°22′Challenging
15VenusAChallengingSaturnB4°39′Challenging
16PlutoAHarmoniousMarsB1°46′Harmonious
17NeptuneAChallengingMarsB2°33′Challenging
18NeptuneAHarmoniousVenusB2°38′Harmonious
19MercuryAChallengingNorth NodeB3°29′Challenging
20SunAChallengingNeptuneB4°04′Challenging
21UranusAHarmoniousVenusB3°29′Harmonious
22VenusAChallengingUranusB3°34′Challenging
23SunAChallengingdepends on the hourUranusB5°04′Challengingdepends on the hour
24North NodeAChallengingJupiterB4°11′Challenging

House overlays

The house of one person’s chart in which each point of the other falls.

Direction of the overlay

A A’s points in B’s houses

Person B has no birth time, so there are no houses to place the other person’s points in.

B B’s points in A’s houses

Person A has no birth time, so there are no houses to place the other person’s points in.

The same pair as a wheelBi-wheel

Person A on the inner ring, person B on the outer ring, the tightest aspects as lines across the middle. Tap a planet or a line. The table under the wheel lists the positions it is drawn from.

AriTauGemCanLeoVirLibScoSagCapAquPis
  • AInner ring: Person A
  • BOuter ring: Person B

Tap a thread or a planet

The tightest link is A’s Sun trine B’s Moon, orb 1°19′. Tap it, or any planet, to read what it means.

Positions as a table
Positions of the two charts
PointA AB B
SunLib 5°55′Pis 24°20′
MoonAqu 1°05′Aqu 7°15′
MercuryVir 19°32′Aqu 27°50′
VenusVir 27°17′Tau 9°10′
MarsGem 11°29′Cap 14°21′
JupiterLeo 8°01′Tau 1°17′
SaturnCap 18°44′Cap 1°56′
UranusCap 5°42′Cap 0°51′
NeptuneCap 11°48′Cap 9°59′
PlutoSco 16°08′Sco 12°20′ R
North NodeAqu 5°28′ RPis 23°01′ R

An orb is the distance, in degrees and minutes, between an aspect and its exact angle. A tight orb is a strong contact; each aspect has its own largest orb.

See the composite chart of the sample couple

Yes, a synastry chart can be worked out without a birth time. The date places the planets, but not the Ascendant, Midheaven or houses. The calculator marks contacts that depend on the hour.

The arc of a day as a thin semicircle with tick marks, a teal thread crossing it sharply and a coral band soft across the same arc

What a Missing Time Takes Away

Without a birth time, the chart cannot place that person's Ascendant, Midheaven or any houses. That means there are no house overlays for them and no contacts to their angles. Synastry compares two birth charts to describe how their placements meet, but this part of the comparison needs a known time. In the sample couple, 11 of 31 contacts involve an Ascendant or Midheaven, so those contacts cannot be assessed when the relevant time is missing.

Planet Contacts Can Still Hold

Many parts of the comparison remain usable. Contacts between planets, and the north node, can be read when they hold through the whole day. The date gives a starting point for those placements, even if the clock time is unknown. A contact that stays in place from early to late is not dependent on choosing one particular hour. Its meaning describes a theme the two people meet, rather than a fixed account of how the relationship must unfold.

The Moon Needs More Care

The Moon moves about 13 degrees in a day, while the Sun moves about 1 degree. The Ascendant turns about 15 degrees an hour, which is why a missing time matters so much for angles. A contact involving the Moon can shift as the day passes. The same is true when a fast point meets a slow one: the contact may be present at one hour and absent at another. Those contacts need a careful label instead of a settled reading.

How the Calculator Marks Uncertainty

For a person with no known time, the chart is cast for noon, with no Ascendant, Midheaven or houses shown. The calculator checks a contact involving a fast point at 00:00, noon and 23:59. If it does not hold at all three times, the result says "depends on the hour." Read that contact as possible, not settled: the noon chart is a useful estimate, but it does not resolve the timing. Adding a birth time later removes that doubt. Each marked contact is listed on its own line, so you can see at a glance which ones depend on the hour and which do not.

Questions

Can you do synastry without a birth time?

Yes, you can compare the planets using birth dates alone. The missing time leaves the Ascendant, Midheaven and houses unknown, so some contacts cannot be assessed. The calculator marks contacts that change during the day as dependent on the hour.

What if only one person knows their birth time?

The timed chart can include its angles and houses, while the untimed chart has none. Contacts between the timed person's angles and the other person's planets cannot be worked out fully. Planet contacts that hold all day can still be compared.

Which planets are affected by an unknown birth time?

The Moon is the planet most likely to shift enough during the day to change a contact. The Sun moves more slowly, while the Ascendant changes quickly. Any contact involving a fast point is checked for whether it holds across the day.

How can I find out my birth time?

A birth certificate or hospital records are the usual places to find a birth time. If neither gives a time, the chart can still show contacts that hold all day, while contacts that vary by hour remain uncertain.